after playing the demo of it last night, i'm going to have to agree with Gabe on this one. i know there are a lot of people who've been getting hyped about Red Faction 2, but if the game is even remotely as bad as the demo was, i'd rather have my head caved in. it reminded me of the olden days when game companies would bring out their FPS that was similar to, but not the same as the current leading FPS. they always sucked and they made you wish you had back the time you wasted playing them. blah.